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Post by bpc532 on Feb 13, 2012 18:29:02 GMT -5
It has been a while.
The last ROH show I went to was a TV taping back in late 2009. Pretty sure I was there for at least the first 30 episodes, so it all blended together going down there twice a month for about a year. The last show I saw was when I ordered Final Battle 2009, where I sat through whatever that main event was when Aries and Black went to a 60-minute draw.
So I'm not up to date on everything, so what's been good/bad/indifferent in your mind?
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Post by Titantron on Feb 13, 2012 20:23:57 GMT -5
Really digging the commentary team of Kevin Kelly and Nigel McGuinness
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Post by laxnrc5150 on Feb 15, 2012 11:21:32 GMT -5
Davey Richards is the current ROH Champion The Briscoe Brothers are the current ROH Tag Team Champions Jay Lethal is the current ROH Television Champion Kevin Steen has set his sights on the ROH Championship but his package piledriver has been banned by Jim Cornette but Steen has introduced the F5 as his finisher Haas and Benjamin are now in ROH and feuding (as great heels) against the Briscoe's Chikara has invaded ROH and the team of Hallowicked and Jigsaw have earned an opportunity at the ROH Tag Team Champions new stipulation matches have been introduced Proving Ground Challenge, Double Danager Scramble match
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Post by stuarthayden on Feb 15, 2012 16:43:07 GMT -5
Steen better get the title. Davey Richards is boring as hell and is barely there to even defend the title. All I ever see on ROH's site is their tag division.
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Post by Captain_44 on Feb 17, 2012 0:55:12 GMT -5
I watch the TV show now and then, I haven't bought a ROH DVD in a while. I was always a fan of ROH, but now for a while I don't know something isn't right about ROH to me, but maybe its me.
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Post by xnocreativityx on Feb 17, 2012 2:24:22 GMT -5
It isn't you... ever since I was extremely disappointed in the Wrestlemania weekend PPVs last year I just haven't been as into ROH. They lost a lot of the roster that I cared about, and the ones I do care about can only feud with so many people. This is a rebuilding time and I'm sure things will pick up. I've been to the last 4 or 5 Final Battle's and this latest one was also a big disappointment to me.
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Post by Captain_44 on Feb 17, 2012 3:25:09 GMT -5
It isn't you... ever since I was extremely disappointed in the Wrestlemania weekend PPVs last year I just haven't been as into ROH. They lost a lot of the roster that I cared about, and the ones I do care about can only feud with so many people. This is a rebuilding time and I'm sure things will pick up. I've been to the last 4 or 5 Final Battle's and this latest one was also a big disappointment to me. Even bigger dissapointment than the cluster that was Aries vs. Tyler 60 min draw?  I'm not saying what I've seen on TV isn't good. It doesn't feel like ROH to me.
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Post by shimmeringwarlock on Feb 17, 2012 15:47:02 GMT -5
I honestly checked out around the time of the Sinclair sale/Christopher Daniels going back to TNA. It's about the same time I was really just starting to get into DGUSA and the whole Ronin faction. With no KOW and no Daniels in the HOT, I really lost interest.
Not to say what I have seen is bad. It's better than what all else is on TV. I'm just not drawn into it right now. In fact, I just learned today that the Briscoes are supposedly babyfaces again already.
Also, is it just me, or is there something of a big Davey Richards backlash starting to set in?
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Post by stuarthayden on Feb 18, 2012 8:18:05 GMT -5
Also, is it just me, or is there something of a big Davey Richards backlash starting to set in? Davey should have gotten the belt years ago. But now that he has it, no one really cares. Especially since he's almost never there to defend it since he's always wrestling for New Japan. Plus, I think people are just simply getting tired of the strong style type of wrestling. It was cool early-late 2000's. But then we just got too many people trying to be super strong style and now it's boring and is seen as a joke. Low Ki is boring as hell to watch. Eddy Edwards is boring as hell to watch. Davey Richards is boring as hell to watch. Kyle O'Reilley is incredibly boring to watch. The reason it worked (and in some cases still does work) for people like Sami, Finlay, KENTA and Joe is because they just ooze charisma and can work other styles when needed. Unlike Davey Richards who has been working the same match since 2007.
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Post by bianco91 on Feb 19, 2012 7:59:58 GMT -5
That strong style of wrestling is what made Ring of honor why would they change something that made them. I do feel though that they try to mix mma into it too much. IMO Eddie Edwards,Kyle O'Reilly & Davey Richards are not boring. Edwards/O'Reilly had a great match at Glory by Honor X. They are just dragging out the Richards/Edwards feud. People are getting tired of it
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Post by stuarthayden on Feb 19, 2012 10:56:16 GMT -5
That strong style of wrestling is what made Ring of honor why would they change something that made them. I do feel though that they try to mix mma into it too much. IMO Eddie Edwards,Kyle O'Reilly & Davey Richards are not boring. Edwards/O'Reilly had a great match at Glory by Honor X. They are just dragging out the Richards/Edwards feud. People are getting tired of it Because people can get burnt out? It's one of the reasons I stopped watching ROH. Every match felt the same and the main events were painfully boring to watch. I don't need to see Alarm Clock 20 times in a match or 5409843 near falls which is always followed up by fighting spirit bullshit where they trade elbows for 20 minutes. It's boring.
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Post by bpc532 on Feb 19, 2012 11:08:52 GMT -5
Or this: 
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Post by cabanahammock on Feb 19, 2012 13:22:27 GMT -5
I was an ROH fan from the beginning, got out of it around September 2007, and then came back with the start of the SBG TV shows. I watch them on the ROH website.
I love the product. It still feels like ROH to me, but a bit different. But I enjoyed the TV shows so much it convinced me to order my first iPPV with Final Battle, which I loved, and now I'm planning on getting all their iPPV's. Also thinking about going back to a show at Chicago Ridge. My last one was the debut of Age of the Fall (helluva angle that, with Brisco hanging and bleeding like a pig).
The roster does seem somewhat thin, but the talent is strong IMO.
As for Davey, I love hm as ROH World Champion. I like the matches I"ve seen. He seems to fit the mold of what an ROH Champion is to me much more than a Jerry Lynn or a Homicide.
The Briscoes, to me, turned back face simply because the crowd loves them too much. Kind of like a Ric Flair, where no matter how "evil" he appears to be, the fans still love to cheer. In ROH, Dem Boys are stars since the beginning, and it would be very hard to make them heels for any length of time.
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Post by Captain_44 on Feb 19, 2012 13:25:26 GMT -5
Davey is a good champion, but like was said earlier, he's in Japan a lot, and there isn't that many top tier guys to defend against anymore. Back in the day you had mid-card guys that the champion could defend against, but no one is buying the mid-card guys they have now as World Title contenders. I know its not a big deal, but I hate the new ring. Tommaso Ciampa is awful, and so if Mike Bennett. Outside of Roderick, Dave, Edwards, Cole, Kyle O'Reill, and Steen, I don't care for the rest of the roster.
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Post by bianco91 on Feb 19, 2012 15:59:38 GMT -5
That strong style of wrestling is what made Ring of honor why would they change something that made them. I do feel though that they try to mix mma into it too much. IMO Eddie Edwards,Kyle O'Reilly & Davey Richards are not boring. Edwards/O'Reilly had a great match at Glory by Honor X. They are just dragging out the Richards/Edwards feud. People are getting tired of it Because people can get burnt out? It's one of the reasons I stopped watching ROH. Every match felt the same and the main events were painfully boring to watch. I don't need to see Alarm Clock 20 times in a match or 5409843 near falls which is always followed up by fighting spirit bullshit where they trade elbows for 20 minutes. It's boring. ok what would you wanna watch? the stuff they put on monday nights or Thursday nights is a joke. Ring of honor was built off that style, a lot of people dig that style. I enjoy watching it, it's modern day pro wrestling.
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